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at the mall, we've been talking about fashion on MSN and what not and I asked her to go to the mall with me and help me "change my style" Now this girl just recently broke up with her bf, and I know her bf really well, so obviously i'm not going to do something stupid like kissing her, however I do want to show her an insane good time and improve myself in the process

Any advice?

There's nothing wrong with having girls as friends. In-fact this seems like the perfect opportunity to increase your social status by showing this girl a good time and by practicing your conversational and social skills. Be effortless with this girl, relaxed confidence. Instead of focusing on gaming her, just allow yourself to have fun - Don't be scared to be goofy if you want to! Hell...just treat her like one of the guys! By doing this it's likely she will introduce you to her friends not only upping your social value but allowing for new opportunities with her hot friends. Networking can be a powerful tool my friend.

-Eros

Ok, but how do I show her a good time, like I'm not a great conversationalist I'm not going to lie.

I am doing the typical sarging, but I did come across this as an interesting part of the game- I think that it would help me as a newbie in conveying good body language and to present myself. However, does anyone have any advice on this- i.e. how does one go about opening, negging and conveying dhv? (Displaying Higher Value)

Specifically on the dance-floor?

Well if you're talking about on the floor as apposed to in the club in general here are 3 key steps to attracting a girl;

0) Aura -

This is the precursor for attraction. Be aloof! Stand tall, head up, chest up. Slow controlled actions. Look happy...no, BE HAPPY.

1) Eye contact -

This is the first and most important step in all of approaching. This doesn't mean you glare at her while she's dancing, in this scenario even a fleeting moment of eye contact will do as long as you...

2) Smile!

In a club a lot of guys are insecure usually on 'death row'; surrounding the dance-floor with their backs up against the wall waiting for something to happen and looking at who could possibly looking out for them. All the while these guys demonstrate LOWER value by checking out everything that walks past - and girls notice this.

3) The approach

So you've made eye contact, you're smiling because you're having a good time and not taking the situation seriously. So once she has shown you an indicator of interest such as a smile back. POLITELY, beckon her over - make her come to you; you are the center of attention.

4) Dancing

Just do your two step. If you are a good dancer then do your thing but if you move like my dad then just keep it simple. Trying to impress her by doing things you're better off not doing while embarrass the both of you.

5) Get her off the floor.

You know the drill from here...

- Eros

So here's a important question:

After reading up on DEL (Dicarlo's escalation ladder) I got a question about it. In the world of puas you hear the phrase "k-close" ALL THE TIME. However, just because you k-close someone it doesn't always mean THAT much because of a variety of reasons such as buyer's remorse and whatnot.

So here's the question: Do you guys think its a good idea to k-close a girl if you know you won't be able to f-close her the same night--> because you don't wanna seem easy, telegraph too much interest, early work in the morning...etc?

To quote DiCarlo, "It's not to say that kissing a girl on a non-sex meet will destroy your chances, but it certainly won't improve them. Kiss-closes may look impressive and feed your ego, but aren't technically optimum".

Herein lies the confusion. I always thought it would be good to kiss a girl no matter what situation, just because it increases and shows a level of developing comfort between the two of you. Also if you miss the opportunity she may think ur a wussy or just not interested. Any thoughts on this? Im meeting up with a girl for a day 2 later today and I can k-close her, but im not sure if I should!?!

- EROS